
jay@jayscomputershop.com www.jayscomputershop.com 818 362-8015
Christmas is coming and its time again to buy a PC.
In this Issue I will be covering buying desktop PCs, from top to bottom. I will also give you my recommendations on were to go to buy that PC.
See last month's newsletter for my tips/suggestions on buying a laptop.
What's On Sale in the Neighborhood?
Fry's Electronics
19" LCD Monitors
In Fry's weekend Ad
$159.99 + get a free Canon IP1800 Printer with it!
Price Good from Friday, Nov 2, 2007 through Tuesday, Nov 06, 2007
Jay's Rating
***
Who Has The Best Desktop PC Deals in Town?
I spent a whole day (November 2nd) looking at all the major electronics store in the San Fernando Valley to find you the best deals. I compared their prices, vs. quality to come up with my picks for the best computer deals. I compared over 50 PCs in several different valley electronics stores. If you want to see the full list and specs that I compiled for all the PCs in the comparison, please give me a call. I would be happy to have you take a closer look at it, and help you find just the right PC for you.
Stores Compared
Best Buy (West Hills, CA)
Circuit City (Woodland Hills, CA)
Fry's (Woodland Hills, CA)
Office Depot (Sylmar, CA)
Sam's Club (Sylmar, CA)
Staples (Woodland Hills, CA)
Brands Compared
Acer
Compaq
Dell
eMachines
Everex
Gateway
Hewlett Packard (HP)
Lenovo
A word about the Actual end cost of a Computer
Remember when buying a computer that the price does not include an Anti-Virus Suite ($80) or Microsoft Word. What you will get is Microsoft Works 8 (free) and a 60 day trial for Symantec's Norton Anti-Virus Suite 2008 most likely. Microsoft's Office 2007 Home and Student trial is offered if you want Word, but after 60 days you will have to pay $130 or more for it. Microsoft Works 8 has a word processor in it, but its not Word. Another thing to look for is if it comes with speakers included, as many do not.
My Favorite Picks for the Basic Desktop PC User
For A PC Under $400
Compaq Presario SR5250NX Lowest Price/Value winner
Vista Home Premium
Pentium Dual Core E2140
1GB System Memory (minimum system memory config for Vista that I would recommend, longevity issue)
320GB Hard Drive
DVD/RW
$349.98
(price good till 1/5/08)
Reg $399.98
Staples - Woodland Hills, CA
(Please note - I have not bought a PC from Staples before, so I don't know what the return policies and such are.)
Jay's Rating
***
Compaq Presario SR5152NX Best Pick winner under $400Vista Home Premium
Athlon X2 4000+
2GB System Memory (The only PC under $400 with enough system memory to run smoothly on Vista; better longevity)
250GB Hard Drive
Light Scribe DVD/RW
Shared 6150SE Graphics
$399.99
Fry's Electronics
Reg $449.99
Jay's Rating
***
For PC/ Monitor & Printer Combo Deal - Under $400eMachines T3626 Lowest Price/Combo winner under $400
Vista Home Premium
AMD Sempron 3800+
1GB System Memory
160GB Hard Drive
DVD/RW
17" CRT Monitor (big fat monitor - not LCD)
Canon Pixma IP 1800 Printer (cheap photo printer, $30 value)
$379.97
Best Buy - Woodland Hills, CA
Jay's Rating (longevity may be an issue here with the PC, so I give it 3 stars)
***
For PC/ Monitor Combo Deal - Under $500
Lenovo 3000 J Series W101823
Vista Home Premium
AMD Athlon 64 X2
1GB System Memory
250GB Hard Drive
DVD/RW
19" Wide Screen LCD
$499.81
Sam's Club
Jay's Rating (Trading off memory and looks for an LCD monitor, so I give it 3 stars)
***
For A PC Under $700
HP Pavilion A6220N Jay's Pick - #1 Overall winner (Basic PC Users Category)
Vista Home Premium
Intel Core 2 Duo E4500
2GB System Memory
400GB Hard Drive
Light Scribe DVD/RW
$639.99
Fry's Electronics
Reg $689.99
Jay's Rating
****
For PC/ Monitor Combo Deal - Under $700
HP Pavilion A6200n Jay's Pick - #2 Overall runner up (Basic PC Users Category)
Vista Home Premium
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 5000+
2GB System Memory
360GB Hard Drive
Light Scribe DVD/RW
HP W2007 20" LCD
$699.98
Fry's Electronics
Reg $869.98
Jay's Rating
****
My Favorite Picks for the Advanced Desktop PC User
For PC Under $1000
Gateway GT5636E Best Entry level Advanced PC/Value Winner
Vista Home Premium
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
2GB System Memory
400GB Hard Drive
DVD/RW
Intel GMA 3100
15in1 Memory card reader
Speakers
$799.99
Office Depot
Jay's Rating (I give it only 3 stars because I don't care for Gateway to much; but this does look like a very solid system, and at a great price)
***
For Video Editing and PC Game Players
HP Pavilion Elite M9060n Jay's Pick - #1 Overall winner (Advanced PC Users Category)
Vista Home Premium
Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 GHz
3GB System Memory
640GB Hard Drive
HD-DVD & Blue Ray optical drives
Nvidia Geforce 8600GT
512MB Graphics memory
DirectX10 (for playing the latest game titles)
Gigabit Ethernet
HP Pocket (can add up to 660GB of additional mobile hard drive storage)
TV Tuner, PVR
Fry's Electronics
$1,299.99
Reg $1,349.99
Fry's Electronics - Woodland Hills, CA
Jay's Rating (Note this is not the top of the line for PC Gamers, but the Geforce 8600GT is no slouch. For top of the line, expect to pay another $500+ dollars)
*****
Amazon is selling almost the exact same M9060n PC, but I do note that it is using an Nvidia Geforce 8500GT graphics card. The 8500GT is not as good as this 8600GT in Fry's. Amazon's price is $1,379.99
http://www.amazon.com/Pavilion-M9060N-Desktop-Processor-Premium/dp/B000VE4C86
What's On Sale on the Net?
Dell.com
Dell Home has a new discount code for Inspiron Desktops.
Get $350 off with it on Select Inspiron Desktops $999+
Dell Coupon Code: 4J1M7748R2RRV6 (Exp 11/15/07 5:55am CT or after 4000 uses)
Also free $100 gift card with Systems $999-1248 Exp 12/20/07
Dell Inspiron 530
(Use coupon code with/ you need to make custom order online/ use my custom specs here)
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4500
Vista Home Premium
22 inch Samsung 2220WM Widescreen Black LCD Monitor
2GB Memory
320GB Hard Drive
16X DVD/RW
128MB Nvidia GeForce 8300GS
$1,099.00
$ - 350.00 Coupon discount
$ 00 Free Shipping
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$749.00
Jay's Rating
****
I will only show you discount sales of products I think are worth buying. Anything with a below Fair rating, or brands that I don't think are good to buy, will not be shown. Because there are so many new products that come out every month, I can not try them out before putting them up here. That would be impossible. My recommendations are based solely upon my observations of the components installed in them, the brand name, and in some cases the reviews that I have read, or customer's PCs I have worked on. Please take these recommendations with that in mind. In the end it is your responsibility to find the right PC or PC product for you. I can only hopefully point you in the right direction. As always, its free for you to call me from the store or have the salesman talk to me with your questions if you are a regular customer of mine (one who has seen me in the past year). I also can come with you to the store to help you pick out the right computer for your situation, but I do charge hourly rates for anything beyond the basic phone call.
Jay's Rating gives you my opinion of the product.
Terrible| Not Good | Fair | Very Good | Excellent
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Jay's Guide to buying a Desktop PC
Basic Users:
For many people the computer is just for getting their email, going on the internet to surf, or maybe their kids doing homework. If you fit into this category then you don't need an expensive PC. A new computer in the $350 to $700 range will serve you well for the next 5 years.
Advanced PC Users:
Do you want to do more with your computer then the basics? Such as downloading and editing your home movies from your camcorder, or have your kids playing the latest killer games? You need to look at more sophisticated computers. These computers are going to run you anywhere from $650 to $1,900 aprox. High end game machines for Kids can go as high as $3000. Even $4000 for the latest Alienware gaming PCs if your a game addict.
Should you buy Windows Vista or Windows XP?
All new computers sold at the stores now come installed with Microsoft Windows Vista as the operating system. You will not find anything else sold on the store floors. It replaced Windows XP back at the beginning of the year. Be aware that Windows Vista has some issues with compatibility with older software and hardware. Like your old printer or your old favorite word processor, these might not work on the new Vista PC. Its mostly due to the manufacturer of your old stuff. If their not making updates to the software needed to run that old printer or word processor on Vista then your out of luck. So be prepared for problems. Some people may want to look at buying Windows XP if this becomes a major issue, but 90% of you won't need to go that route. In my opinion it is better in most cases to keep up with new trends. Don't get stuck behind with old stuff that is not going to be compatible with your future purchases. A year or two from now when you want that new camera that only works with Windows Vista you may feel sorry. You would have been better off buying a new printer to go with Vista instead of the other way around. Trying to make your computer fit your old printer by buying Windows XP is not the best solution.
For the basic user you should go with Windows Vista Home Basic or Windows Vista Home Premium. The Advanced PC user should go with Windows Vista Home Premium which includes tools for multi-media. The Vista Home Premium version replaces Microsoft's Media Center 2005.
If you think your in the 10% that should go with Windows XP, take a look at this article from PCWorld, dated Sept 28, 2007. "XP Reprieve: Microsoft Gives OEMs Five More Months Microsoft had planned to stop selling XP through OEMs and retailers on Jan. 31, 2008, while custom system builders have until Jan. 31, 2009, to pre-install XP on machines. But because sales of Vista PCs have not been as strong as expected, OEMs and retailers have asked Microsoft to extend XP's availability. OEMs and retailers will now have until June 30, 2008, to sell PCs with "XP" preinstalled on machines, Microsoft said. Retailers also can sell XP out of the box until that time if they choose, the company said. In fact, some PC makers are selling Vista-equipped systems with an XP Pro recovery disc to those who request one so that it can be used in case the purchaser isn't happy with the new Microsoft OS." To see the full article go to - http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,137826/article.html
Buying a Used PC vs. New
Don't buy a used computer, I don't recommend them anymore. In fact, I stopped selling used computers almost two years ago when the cost of buying a used PC compared to a new one (with a rebate or on sale) became so very close in price. Now days you can get a brand new PC with a printer and monitor included for free (with rebates!) for not much more then the price of a used computer. You might spend an extra $100 in comparison, but its well worth it if you don't have a problem with running Vista. One reason you might want to buy a used PC is if you need a Windows XP machine, beyond that I don't see much advantage.
What do I need "inside" my PC?
The Processor
The processor is the brains of your computer. It does the real work.
In the past it was all about speed!!!!! You use to buy a computer based on how fast it was (for example 3.4GHz). Not anymore! Today its all about the number of processors that are squeezed into one chip (called multi-core processors). As they say, two heads are better than one. Two processors both running at 2GHz is faster then one processor running at 3GHz. So look for the words Dual Core, Core Duo, Core Quad (4 processors!!) , or X2 . These are multi-core processors and that is what you want. Don't buy a single core processor (for example Pentium 4 - 3GHz, or AMD Sempron 3800+) , unless you are a very basic user and are not concerned with longevity. Current and future software out there is being written to take advantage of these extra processing cores. Most new desktop processors now run between 2GHz and 3GHz (they have dropped in speed). Just look for any processors that are over 2GHz and you will be ok. Intel processors are faster and better than AMD. Go with Intel if you are an Advanced PC user. Take a look at the Intel Core Duo or Core Quad. Basic users can go with AMD. AMD's Athlon 64 and Sempron, are cheaper. For the non-Video tasking, or non-gaming PCs, you won't need the extra processing power of the Intel.
The System Memory
If the processor is like the brains of your computer, then the System Memory is like its short term memory. This is where the programs that you are currently working on get stored while you are working on them. The more system memory you have, the more programs you can have open and running at the same time. Windows Vista needs lots and lots of memory just for itself, so don't be skimpy.
I see some cheap PCs out there with only 512MB of RAM running on a Windows Vista Machine, beware! For the Basic PC user you can get away with 512MB on Vista. for a little while, but you will have to upgrade the memory in a couple of years for sure. Also note that you do not get some of the eye candy features that come with Vista, such as Aeros on 512MB machines. The Aeros feature, with its see through windows, is disabled on Vista machines running only 512MB of RAM. Windows Vista really requires 1GB or more of RAM for it to fully work properly, so you might want to have them add an extra 512MB to the machine before you take it home. I advise for Vista, 1GB for Basic PC Users and 2GB - 4GB of RAM for the Advanced PC User.
If you are getting Microsoft Windows XP, then you will want 2GB for the Advanced PC User, and 1GB for the Basic PC User. Windows XP can't do anything with more then 2GB so don't waste your money beyond that.
Video/Graphics Card
The Graphics Card is what makes your computer see the world in its richest full colors.
For the Basic PC User this is not as important an issue as it is for the Advanced Power PC User. Basic users can get away with onboard graphics built into the motherboard, it helps keep the cost down. With Vista Machines they need 256MB of memory on the graphics card (or shared system memory) to fully work properly. Most machines out there now are ok on graphics for the Basic User.
For the Advanced PC User, look for a graphics card that comes separate from the motherboard, and with its own memory, not shared system memory. Look for 256MB - 800MB of onboard graphics memory. For heavy video editing and high end Gaming PCs its important to look for the most memory onboard you can afford.
Hard Drive
For the Basic User anything out there is going to be ok. I would not worry about the hard drive.
For the Advanced PC User, if you are going to be doing video editing, or storing TV or Movies, then the more the better. A minimum of 300GB is ok for just video editing, but go with 500GBs or more to store Movies and TV shows. Don't forget that those high definition movies take more space! Don't plan on saving a lot of these with a small hard drive. The newest hard drives out there are now 1TB. (That's 1 Tera Byte, which is equal to 1000GB [Giga Bytes]) and you will need it to store very many of these big high def babies.
PC Brand
There is no clear favorite these days. I use to suggest Dell, but it has been slipping down hill till its the same as the others now I suggest going by price and sales/rebates now, more then the brand when choosing. The top PC builders (Dell, HP, Gateway, Lenovo) are all about the same, but if I had to choose, I would go with HP first, then Dell, and then Gateway last for home users. For business users I would go with Lenovo (IBM), then Dell, then HP and lastly Gateway.
Don't know what the heck I just said? That's OK. You can call me before you buy, and I will help you go over it. There's no charge for the phone call. If you want me to go with you to help you pick one out, call me.
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(818)362-8015